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Post by experimental on Sept 21, 2017 3:53:24 GMT
Also feel sorry for ur relatives who want u there cos I'd never let MY child be like you and come back. Ugh. Anyway that's what they're like. And the relatives esp mums sister is all implying YOU NEED US SEE, SEE? ? I legitimise your stupid parent-abandoning vain idiocy because ur westernised and don't respect parents!!!! Anyways everybody's gonna mind our Chinese parts n free them out of that shit even if the trip sucks. F everybody else.
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Post by experimental on Sept 22, 2017 0:08:35 GMT
UGHH never mind they called to say there's a problem. And that there's nothing I can do except to wait for their update. I'm sooo freaking exhausted from this.
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Post by experimental on Sept 23, 2017 0:36:45 GMT
I'M APPROVED! YAY! That was inadvertently Trial 1 of the bs i'll have to deal with. sorry it seems I still have the 'yr6' attitude/voice ("bch-voice", she says)
yesterday the chinese little part took calls from the embassy like a pro! yay! she's only about 6 in system-age. but rahrah adult-now she prob borrows some things from adult me. shush I know my lines.
just told aunty I won't be visiting her. if I see her then I see her, but it won't be cos I pretended I wanted to see her or have anything to do with her. we're sticking to our script and official position. we're in it together. even when we (or those of us who) don't feel it or everything feels normal and fine when u talk to her or my mother. everything's juuust fine and nice.
I SO wanted to stick with it a bit longer in case we need other info like how to travel to that place or any other official documentation or whatever else. the authorities and everybody there will have no sympathies for somebody with no family and unable to call or verify my official address like a pseudo-local and that sort of thing. (they always need documentation for this that or other and they dont have to be fair in how they treat you, and by authorities I just mean the presence of officials everywhere) But whatever. Disadvantages are one thing and mindfk is another, I will deal with it and as long as I'm not physically threatened (which I won't be) then i'll just deal. As long as I get to visit him then it's fine.
I will be staying at a cute little local place! I feel well enough to look at it and it's so much better than hiding out in an expensive chain hotel and i'm going to try to ENJOY IT.
yr6 is listening to the song 'f it' just for the line '-beep- you you -beep-, I don't want you back!!'
it's a week of national holidays in china. what timing. it's gonna be packed with families and family-less-shame. and we're gonna be like '-beep- you you -beep-, I don't want you back!!' ("do it for the illiterate farmers", says yr6 LOL) yr6 used to be a boy in the system did I tell u guys
Also i'm only in the nice/cute place for 2 days then i'm going to probably stay in a hostel dorm to meet international travellers and tell everybody that my family is shit. you hear all the best things in these hostels. we used to love it. the freedom and diversity in all the world's people. um no politics intended. just the lack of social constraints and stupid shit.
I don't care how I act around them we'll need to conserve our energy. and when we see him we're gonna go right up to him and be ourselves and whatever the script can do. if anything happens to hurt us, we'll ignore it and still go for the good stuff. if we don't feel it, we're sticking to script.
Man this is like coping with that therapist while doing the topdd. I might let the big talk to u now but i'm having trouble switching out. she was telling you guys in her head how ...umm I don't remember. but it's about this. about managing us by filtering us through bethany LOL because some littles are so into that it's like a lure made of magnet. But anyway so she's keeping more of us out and if something bad happens just stay and change it enough to make it OK and tolerable. there's some other stuff in there like tara brach general direction/intention. wow I really suck at talking for the big.
there's SO MUCH to tell and talk about though and not enough time to write or think and we still wish we had a T.
yeah this whole dealing with family thing is like dealing with MB (that therapist). we got practice by dealing with her. and staying on track. it's wrong but it was tolerable enough to make something of it. and be stronger for it. we never wanna portray it like it's ok or primarily triggers or whatever. because it wasn't. It could have had us (and others) a lot worse.
it's never wrong to believe in what matters. fu (to family) that I even find myself censoring my mental comments when my visa wasn't approved fu that I'm nervous when I visit youtube cos youtube is banned in china fu that I even plan and 'collect' like we're collecting things to help us cope. in a way this had a child version back then too, when we'd cling onto little tiny things like a pen and meditate into it and be attached to it cos people hurt us and cos anything we liked got taken away or manipulated to make it bad. fu fu that you deprive me of information to even get around confidently in china, triggers aside fu I am not budging one bit or compromising our glow one little tiny teensy bit, even if you are 'fine' and not immediately dangerous in any obvious way, we don't give a f and we don't have to give a f this is exactly why visiting is even MORE important different from, and not similar to, visiting china and/or visiting u
and now we gotta run and get groceries because we are not compromising our food for it either!! there's SO much detail of dysfunction in the memories -beep- you you -beep-, I don't want you back! and by 'i' that's a chorus of multiples not I-partial and not we-dispersed even the shamed ones know they're ours now we have a life here now and I don't want you back! lol
our housemate said to the big when she was mock-complaining, 'you sound so desperate, like you want to escape.' and she was like: WOW, it shows! I expressed myself without censoring it!! SO YAY we don't care how we come across either and f all of them -beep-s for taking our head space to even think about it I don't even care if he gets it or how much/what I can say, or if I'm too warm or too weird or too little or too inappropriate or too whatever the f he will know the essence because nobody gets to take that away and if I have to squish up and be little or weird so be it (it won't be super extreme little that worries people, it'll just be thru the big)
i'm gonna make it true by proving it so! just like I ejected the topdd-replier when their emails don't suit me LOL no but seriously we're gonna believe and make it grow and it's the least I can do and the best thing that I can do and nothing else is bigger than that or more legitimate so f everything else and all the petty shit and even the abuse that make us small
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Post by experimental on Sept 26, 2017 3:02:55 GMT
today we're studying. I've tucked everything in so it's all surprisingly non-eventful. tomorrow is the final exam, then we're off to the airport. it's a weird thought. haven't called any phonelines or allowed any space for emotions after the first few days, like the posts here heh.
it's weird cos it's like, I realise I've returned to my pre-therapy, pre-twhj norm. psych assessments vet me as normallish, heh, I study, work, i'm focused and emotionally singular. I mean alone, but without even the social capacity to call it that. I tolerate feelings a lot more and I allow parts out with more flexibility, so that my functioning is never about pushing them away. but it's so weirdly similar. I wonder where i'll be in 10 years time.
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Post by experimental on Sept 28, 2017 15:55:35 GMT
I'm here in china! Soo much seems to have happened. But it's just memories. It's so complicated. I wish I could record it all, catch it in a jar. But I can't. And I need to sleep cos I've been up for 23 hours. This studio I just checked into is lovely though and I'm so glad i did that. It's so cute and local and brings out the best of this place without the yuck from the past. Goodnight
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Post by experimental on Sept 30, 2017 2:28:15 GMT
Hey. Just kind of checking in. I've been here for a day and a half and have been putting off calling grandpa. I'm heading there today so must call. I will do after this post. So it's 2 nights here in this studio to get settled within myself. Then off to the village at a lodge-like place. It's a few hours out so I'll be there the whole time that I'll see grandpa - 5 days. Then back for 2 more nights at a hostel. There weren't hostels out that way so I suppose getting it for the tail end of the trip doesn't serve the same purpose. But it's cheap and I'll be glad to speak to travellers so it's still good. There's so much here I wish I could tell you. If people are reading. I tried journaling to myself but I couldn't really. And I realised so many of my triggers are generic and I was really so afraid of not having water and being too scared to move or think. All the physical discomforts were so scary too. And I was always sick as a child. On top of constantly being in a mental funk. I wish I could reach it more and I miss old t for that. I wish he's around to tell. He's been the only T who really listened and was willing to experience my world. Then personal differences aren't so important. Otherwise the nuances and differences just seem too much. I sat next to a chinese man on the plane who was triggering to me but he seemed nice if rigid/sad so I gave him a chance and left him my Australian number for when we both go back. God my English is not flowing can u guys tell... or is it in my head? I'd meant to keep grounded as me for this entire trip and its mostly been ok but the hard stuff is yet to begin. And I'm already losing internal context. The smell and senses of a place as different as china is so fitting to dissociation that it's hard to hold onto even without switching. I have a lot of stuff to keep me connected tho and I'm wearing a tshirt from the Kubo movie About the guy, I'm trying to find more of my Chinese heritage/life-context and I may be able to find it through him. He seems equally desperate for acceptance. It's complicated/ culturally nuanced, bleagh I dunno, but don't be concerned. This guy came to Australia 30 years ago and now lives alone and seems bitter and sad about it. Also seems really stuck in old communist china mentality. That's where a lot of the layers of my abuse lie. It's all layered and I just feel like I'd have no hope of reuniting with it except for Ts like old t which I may never find again. Capacity for a really felt, first-hand-like empathy. Even if I found it I'd probably run a mile cos it's not trauma aware enough, parts-aware enough. I wonder if it's possible to be both but I doubt it. So much of my experience in china is just collecting within myself, biding time, avoiding attention, and coping with staying silent for hours and hours on end. When I stay in a hotel like now (it's Airbnb) I lose touch with it all and forget why I claim to be abused or what the big deal is even if I was. But I agreed with parts we're going with the plan so I'm glad I'm not near family when I can't keep the truth in mind. It's still confusing though. Soon as I landed from the plane everybody acts like my parents in general mannerisms and I'm confused. I think moving countries as a child gave me a lucky escape, you guys. Even though abuse still continued in Australia the English and nuanced differences between people protected the world from turning as bad. That's why I clung to non-Asian people in my mind and it's an unexpected escape that they couldn't have controlled. Or as easily. Same with the internet. It was my escape outside of their awareness and control. I also remembered the extent of information control they had on me. I feel triggers being scared of everything and everyone in china and not being able to think in freedom. And being made to believe I can't do anything. I don't know the basics of society like public transport or small talk or bank accounts or literally anything. Then I was punished for being this way when they made it so. But this time I'm just acting like an Australian tourist or businessperson in my head and sheltering parts from having to face things here. This way I can figure stuff out, and it's not hard. Like read a map, ask, etc. language barriers aren't so bad. Or shameful. Then I try to share the experience with parts. Though I dunno if they really get it. It's so complex in there. I wish I had someone to process it with. The extent of fear and information control and dysfunction. And the memories too. As a child just the travel switch was overwhelming with soooo much detail and emotion. But I lost detail in the concussion/brain-injury and integrating some trauma also mushes the memories a bit and I miss them and I miss the depth and complexity of insider memories. Anyway I better go. This is longer than expected. I'm glad though cos I couldn't write to myself before lol..... I hope you're all doing ok.
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Post by experimental on Sept 30, 2017 10:27:48 GMT
I'm here near the nursing home. I say "near" but it's still some time away, about 45 min travel each way.
I just called him cos I've been avoiding it all this time. It was only a minute long. Cos I can't really understand him (it's a regional language different from mandarin or my dialect of Chinese) and he's hard of hearing. But he knows I'm visiting. I hope whatever I do will be enough.
Also he sounds ok-ish and not critically sick or "could go any day" according to aunty and mum. But I know I'll have no regrets in coming if it turns out he recovers. I don't even know from what. They told me a lung infection and how he can't speak clearly, is "very weak" "but has awareness"... maybe it's just a respiratory infection. He may not even know they've been talking about his death, I'll need to check that out. But either way I won't hold back. If they tighten the visa restrictions and if I lose contact with other family I may not be able to come back again. I'm not fking letting this go as a lie. Not all the years I couldn't speak to him, since I was 6 years old.
I'm worried that I caught a note of coldness or awkwardness from him. I felt that last time in 2011 too when I briefly visited (with mum present). And I worry what if I'm more like a stranger to him or he finds me inappropriate or weird or rude in any of my behaviour. My lack of common etiquette and all my distance over the years. And he doesnt know he's important to me and he's loved by others (his many friends and neighbours... not so much my mother). And I tell myself it doesn't matter - the glow still counts and is always worth it and that's what I'm there for. And I trust it is enough. If it isn't, I won't regret trying and not holding back. I'll be sincere and open and not live a lie as much as I'm able. The rest can't be explained esp with the language issues. And I don't have an adults vocabulary or expression in Chinese even without the dialect issues and his hearing impairment. But it'll have to do.
I had trouble getting to this accommodation and it's pouring rain and I'm sad. There's nothing outside this place either it's too regional. But it's good atmosphere to talk with parts inside heh and get on the same page again. I hope to stay around there for most of 3-4 days. Then I'm off. It will have to be enough. And if I see other family members I've not worked out what I'll do, but I won't change for them.
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Post by experimental on Oct 2, 2017 0:40:05 GMT
I saw him. I'm not sure what to say, it was ok. But I'm a bit disappointed...? I dunno, I'm a bit emotionally flat too. It's 7.40am and I find myself procrastinating in bed and not wanting to be seen or run into anyone at this hotel/lodge. And that's not good maybe parts are triggered. It's a pretty constant and regular feeling for me tho. But ughh It was ok seeing him but the language issues are worse than I thought. He doesn't seem to register anything I say. Though he tells me stuff in bits and pieces that I don't understand anyway. He said I look healthy and health is the most important thing lol. He is getting better! So that's the only good thing. He's recovering. From a lung infection. In china you buy treatments upfront in the hospitals and he didn't want the treatment. It's cos they're rural-ish they tend to see any treatment as an interference when it's "your time to go" esp when the treatment is western medicine. He's 94. There are so many intricacies of culture I'm hit by. I've never been able to be a part of it, even the parts that belong to this material. This is really really old fashioned even for this part of town though and he agreed to the treatment after a few days. It's "just" a lung infection and I reckon he'll be fine soon. How's that for patient rights lol, they won't save you if you don't sign. Jokes. I can't really talk to him at all though. And I'm bored out of my mind which is vaguely triggering. There's also people coming to visit him practically constantly, which I expected. Aunty (my mums sister) greeted me warmly and hugged me and they (incl grandpa) all talk like we visitors are all close and travelling together. Even tho I'd texted her I'm staying alone and don't want to see any of them and she kept talking about chauffeuring me around and giving me a precharged cash card and I said no rudely. Grandpa kept telling Aunty to take me to eat specialty foods from this town and to watch me in case I get lost around here and to tell him what I want to see and eat and do. So we agreed. But it's so sad. I dunno. And he showed me photos from my last visits years ago and all I remember is the pain and torture of enduring it. But clearly he thinks warmly of those photos. This visit now is different for me but not for him. I tried to tell him I remember about playing cards, as it was in the agreed script with parts (I don't have an actual script but just general things but the word script caught on with parts). And he interrupted me to point at some food on the table and tell me to have some. It wasn't hurtful but just sad. And so much I won't be able to communicate. Anyway my childhood time with him would be a long time ago to him. He's bragging to nurses that it's been over 24 years since I went overseas and he didn't know what was gonna happen but I'm grown up now! Well he seems happy about that I won't ruin that lol. The life I've had. (Not that id left before it began) But nor can I. I can't even communicate any aspect of what this trip means to me. He also talks more to Aunty and treats me like a child to be minded. Which kinda makes sense esp as I can't speak the language (this regional one). But I'm just there like a placeholder bum on seat instead of anything special. And everything is lovely-noisy-familylike with my aunt. And I'm like her foreign-guest-kid who's just there. This afternoon is my only time with him alone then 4 more days with family. Can't wait to leave actually. And it's so mind numbingly boring and there's no hot water for tea or coffee or much of anything to do. These small luxuries are my safe escape I guess. I got my hug and photo tho. Photo looks awesome. Bit weird/deceiving. I feel like I want to communicate the meaning more somehow. Last chance today. It'd be abstract at best considering my parents are the good guys here. But idk, I'd be happy with anything. I want to say I'm not close to my parents like I was with you. That's not an easy thing to say when u have no adult words and the listener is almost deaf and you're in different dialects. A note would be too weird but I'm considering it. I'll need to use a translation tool. Omg new hope! I won't be overfocused on my needs tho I just want it to be meaningful. And I want to be nice and attentive to him in ordinary ways but it's hard not to shut down and do nothing when everyone hustles and bustles around you constantly fussing over him and telling me to sit and eat and wow you must speak English wow you're big and tall (that's a compliment for kids growing up) how long are you here wow you still can understand a little bit sit sit eat eat eat. It's busy as f. I hate how Aunty is almost welcome in my mind for being the only person I can speak the same language with (in Chinese). And she's nice and warm and conversational. Be so easy to go eat and shop with her and see a movie and giggle about makeup. She told me she bought her dress online and how id look good in it and did a twirl dance for me. Everything's so damn great. But no. Not in agreement with parts. It's like I'm always dumb for living simpler and for acting like stuff is wrong. This is why some parts can be a pretentious bch and have pretentious bch friends. Can't keep up with those anymore tho. Previously it's easy to give in cos I'd forget the pain and some parts can enjoy it except for the backlash and it's just so easy to shop eat and play and be fine. Like what abuse? What a bad word? Lol kinda funnynotfunny that at the same time grandpa wanted to forego basic treatment for an infection as tho it's fancy. Pretty sure he has no idea what they're like, no concept of this kind of flaunting urbanite thing. Except for city fashion that he figures young people (incl my parents, anyone under 60) like. I really gotta go I spent an hour typing this. And idk if it's real but they tell me it's hard to get a taxi back and gave me a free room AT the nursing home to stay at. Which I took up. I get the room alone. Then I'm procrastinating talking to hotel staff about payment cos I don't have enough cash ughh cos of the wrong info online and it might be hard to pay them any other way. They don't take international credit cards and I might need to talk them through signing up for PayPal. No banks within walking distance cos local ones don't deal with foreign currency. I'd come back and pay tonight but it'd make them nervous and I don't like it. Ughhhh I don't want to get up and face the day. Forgot to mention I keep meeting relatives I don't know at grandpas. Including one uncle who told me he and my dad were there when I was born. Like, prematurely and almost died and nobody cared that j almost starved to death after a month?? Because I wasn't awake during feeding time so they didn't feed me? Then I was rushed to Shanghai city and soon discharged but I was really sick and almost died again?? Idk. Whatever. Far out I need to stop typing and get on with my day. I'm on my phone. It's pouring rain and
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Post by experimental on Oct 2, 2017 3:00:25 GMT
I just got hit on by a fellow hotel guest. I'm soooo uncomfortable bleahhh. Last night we came out of our rooms together and he said he was looking for the hotel manager cos his room didn't have enough sheets. They were nowhere to be found so I gave him my extra sheets. Today he hugged me and wanted my number so I gave him my Chinese one that won't be there after I leave. He said it looked like I slept early last night or he would have come in for a chat. I didn't but I had the lights off. He hovered real close to me and tried to open and close the door for me and carry my luggage even tho I'm leaving it at the hotel til noon. Bleh. Blah.
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Post by cindy on Oct 3, 2017 18:18:35 GMT
How is it going? Were you able to tell him how important he has been in your life? I hope at least you were able to just say...you are the most important family to me That guy seems creepy to me. Of course I think all guys creepy, lol. ((((((((((experimental))))))))))
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Post by cindy on Oct 3, 2017 18:19:28 GMT
You are doing an amazing job navigating through all of that!!!
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Post by experimental on Oct 4, 2017 6:46:08 GMT
Cindy thank you so much! ((((((((((Hugs))))))))) I feel really disconnected. I leave the nursing home area tomorrow so today's my last "chance". I do have a few hours with him alone in the afternoon. But I haven't said anything meaningful. It's too awkward and distant. Also my aunt being around is so confusing for my head. Though not directly triggering since she hasn't done anything directly bad to me. I miss good, heartful things with purpose. Made the mistake of going on Facebook and man I really dunno what to be in the psychology-student world. I'll need to hold on tight to who I am there too. I don't like the vibe and atmosphere. Or the personal issues mix, holy moly thank you twhj for sheltering me for years lol. Last time I noticed this too but I thought it was just me being messed up. It's more this time around either cos having personal history is considered better now or cos this uni has a lot of older students who chose this as a career change. Like me? But oh man no why are people so simple minded And ugh the royal commission is coming to a close and people are talking about false memories cos it made the news far out no bleagh do not want to read or think right now wtf get out of my phone gack. I so thought they evaded this one for the most part but nooo. It's so hard to talk to grandpa and half the time he's sleepy and not listening. Don't think he's as well as the first day I saw him :/ and he's refusing to take white blood cells. He also asks when my mothers going to arrive. (She will after I leave next week) When I speak I'm never sure if he hears me. And I looked up words to write a note with yesterday but didn't do it. I tested some old ordinary memories with Aunty eg the old room I used to live in and she said I have a good memory in this happy cheery way. Old stuff probably don't mean that much to him tho and I can't bring in the complicated stuff about my mum (essentially his child tho he's not the bio dad) and there's no place for shades of grey. Cindy I like your line and I'll try to say it! All the old stuff here are filled with memories. Sad pained ones but not super traumatic. But it also disconnects me from meaning just like before, like all my other visits with parents.
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Post by experimental on Oct 4, 2017 12:13:26 GMT
He spent all afternoon fighting with the nurse/staff. Gosh he's a bit of a dick. It's new to me to feel safe while its happening though. But we didn't get to talk and he was sulking. He wants the nurse to be more attentive and shouts at her that she's lazy and forgetful and lying to get out of doing work. But it's just for stuff like not tidying up the table, not asking him how he's feeling, not washing empty cups right away etc. the nurses can also be heard singing and chatting (like literally singing together, I think it's sweet) in the common room instead of attending to him. And they only do stuff when they have to like give meals, when someone presses the help button or to administer meds. So he just presses the help button intercom to yell at them. Lol it's so petty. But the nurse doesn't try to better it either and just teases him about being cranky and kinda laughs at him and makes him madder. It's stoopid.
Other than that I feel emotionally dead. I liked seeing his stubborn character tho it's like a spark of his personality. He told me my father called today and asked if it's close to visit him. Lucky question w an easy answer - yes it's not too far. Didn't tell him I don't visit or speak to him.
He also told me something like: keep learning and the world has infinite knowledge. And I remembered he was before the cultural revolution and all that that burned books. And banned them. He was a teacher (I don't know what sort) and they tell me he was flogged and made to climb thru holes dug in the ground wearing a shame hat for being a teacher. It seems so remote but I've had a life too. I wish I knew him when he could talk and when I had a chance of talking with him.
ETA: because that's what the communist cultural revolution did to teachers /intellectuals
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Post by experimental on Oct 4, 2017 12:29:47 GMT
Yknow it strikes me his values have always been this way and he's very un-brainwashed the entire time. Hooray! Heh. I'd be scared to speak it but he's very natural about it. Very untraumatised too. Can't say the same for the entire generation of my parents and school teachers.
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Post by experimental on Oct 4, 2017 13:08:12 GMT
Reading this right now: www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/05/16/world/asia/17china-cultural-revolution-voices.html?_r=0Recently a professor of an Australian university who's a Chinese citizen got held and questioned by the Chinese gov when he tried to leave china. The news was reporting that the Aus gov can't help and no one knew why he was held there. When he safely returned I said to a friend phew I thought he might die and I'm glad they reported that he returned cos if they didn't I'd be wondering what happened to him. And they acted like *omgwhat* they're a Chinese migrant too. Like come on, this stuff is real. It's not a secret. It's widely known. Don't act like I'm the crazy one like... idk, people never get it o.O his wife's a human rights lawyer. He teaches about political issues. Time to get Aus citizenship unless you're making a statement with your life/citizenship. Which is his choice. I'm not exaggerating or triggered but it's still unreal to people. What chance do other crimes have right :/ Oh and I discovered yet another parallel with the DID-denial thing recently. Not just now but these few weeks. It's about "being caught for secretly being on the bad peoples side". I wish I could talk to old t.
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